Here is a little thread we captured and saved for reference. It jumps around the country with a discussion of Union Stations. If you find your favorite station is missing from the list, drop me, John Feagans some email at 75300,703: #: 48806 S1/General 13-Nov-91 19:46:33 Sb: Train Stations Fm: Joe Farrell 71036,162 To: Michael A. Hernly 70003,3017 (X) Worcester,MA had 2 Union stations. The 1st was built around 1870, and torn down in the 1960's. 2nd Union Station, built in 1910-1913 is still standing, but in sad shape. I've got more info/photos if you're interested. #: 48815 S1/General 14-Nov-91 02:48:07 Sb: Train Stations Fm: J. Richard Shryock 71510,3350 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) Portland ME, Razed 1963 #: 49053 S1/General 20-Nov-91 12:16:25 Sb: Train Stations Fm: Steven J. Myers 70006,373 To: Michael A. Hernly 70003,3017 (X) Mike: There were four that I know of in Ohio. Their locations, railroads served and status as of today are: Cincinnati Union Terminal NYC,PRR,L&N,C&O,B&O,Southern/Amtrak Rotunda is now museum, Amtrak Cardinal returned 9/91. Cleveland Union Terminal NYC,PRR,NKP Headquarters of Chessie System until 1986, undergoing restoration as "Tower City" office, hotel and retail center. Cleveland Regional Transit Authority trains still use lower level. Columbus Union Terminal NYC,PRR,C&O,B&O,N&W Torn down, 1976 Marion Union Terminal NYC,ERIE,C&O,PRR (now NS) Undergoing restoration, Marion Model Railroad Club building That's all I can think of in Ohio, I'm sure there were more. Steven Myers #: 48863 S1/General 15-Nov-91 07:28:12 Sb: #Train Stations Fm: J. Richard Shryock 71510,3350 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) Sorry John, my fingers muat have slipped. Portland, Maine's Union Station was actually razed in 1961. #: 48867 S1/General 15-Nov-91 08:01:58 Sb: #48863-#Train Stations Fm: John Feagans 75300,703 To: J. Richard Shryock 71510,3350 (X) I guess I am the designated volunteer to compile the list? What railroads were at the Portland, Maine, Union Station? Maybe on of the sysops could help by putting a hold on the beginning of the thread until we capture the whole thing? #: 49009 S1/General 19-Nov-91 15:37:38 Sb: #48867-#Train Stations Fm: Michael A. Hernly 70003,3017 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) I am trying to locate all the Union Stations in the United States and have not found a source for a complete list. Any ideas. Can you help? I am only interested in the ones that are still standing. Have you contacted the sysop yet about the thread? #: 49011 S1/General 19-Nov-91 16:00:11 Sb: #49009-#Train Stations Fm: John Feagans 75300,703 To: Michael A. Hernly 70003,3017 (X) No, he didn't drop me a line yet. Lets just see if we can get this thread cooking and keep the list. Some that come to mind are: Seattle, Wa. built 1910, used by O-W RR & N and CMStP&P. In use for buses. Portland, Ore. built?, SP,GN,NP,SP&S,UP. Un use by Amtrak LosAngeles built 1939, SP,AT&SF,UP. Still in use by Amtrak. Aberdeen, Wa.! UP,NP, CMStP&P. Still standing. #: 49012 S1/General 19-Nov-91 16:35:44 Sb: #49011-#Train Stations Fm: Michael A. Hernly 70003,3017 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) The ones I know are in Cincinnati, OH, Indianapolis, IN, Washington DC, Grand Central in New York city, Knoxville, TN. I'll keep watching. Thanks for your input. #: 49019 S1/General 19-Nov-91 17:58:58 Sb: #49012-#Train Stations Fm: John Feagans 75300,703 To: Michael A. Hernly 70003,3017 (X) Be sure and list the railroads and build date if known. Could make an interesting list. Any contributions from others? #: 49045 S1/General 20-Nov-91 09:39:52 Sb: #49019-#Train Stations Fm: Jesse Svoboda 76666,1472 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) Columbus, OH had a union station; PRR/B&O/C&O/N&W (& NYC I think.) Built? Torn down..early 70s. Jesse #: 49111 S1/General 21-Nov-91 10:40:36 Sb: #49045-Train Stations Fm: Mark Hufstetler 76256,767 To: Jesse Svoboda 76666,1472 (X) There's a nice little depot in Hot Springs, South Dakota that is billed as the "smallest Union Station in the World." It served branch lines of the CB&Q and the C&NW (both now abandoned. The building is now a Chamber of Commerce office. There's a large Union Station in Ogden, Utah, as well (UP, SP, D&RGW). It is now a museum, and still hosts Amtrak trains. #: 49044 S1/General 20-Nov-91 08:50:10 Sb: #49012-#Train Stations Fm: David Byrnes 76220,3601 To: Michael A. Hernly 70003,3017 (X) Michael - Tacoma, WA and Los Angeles come to mind. I'd be guessing at the railroads, but for the former, I imagine NP and GN at least, and for the latter, maybe UP, SP and ATSF? Dave #: 49060 S1/General 20-Nov-91 16:11:14 Sb: #49044-#Train Stations Fm: John Feagans 75300,703 To: David Byrnes 76220,3601 (X) Right, Tacoma, Wa. had UP in addition to GN,NP. I don't know the complete story but that beautiful station with the copper dome still stands, isolated from the BN mainline by a new freeway. The burger king Amtrak station is located on the edge of the downtown closer to the Tacoma Dome. I wonder what the status of all the stations from Seattle to Portland was considering they served the GN-NP-UP pool trains? Were they NP stations or Union Stations? BTW there is a nice artical about the Portland station in _________ this month. I didn't know that the trainsheds were torn down because they contained asbestos and dated from the 1905 Lewis and Clark Exposition. #: 49114 S1/General 21-Nov-91 11:30:44 Sb: #49060-#Train Stations Fm: David Olson 73540,140 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) John- Liked the comment about "Burger King" stations. We've got one in Worcester about 200 yards east of the still standing, but probably not for long, Union Station (B&A, B&M, NH) in Worcester Mass. David #: 49122 S1/General 21-Nov-91 15:10:32 Sb: #49114-#Train Stations Fm: John Feagans 75300,703 To: David Olson 73540,140 (X) Noone has mentioned Kansas City yet. I rode a Misouri Pacifc in and Rock Island out, and a Santa Fe through. Was it a Union Station? I believe they have a burger king station alongside just like in Omaha. Only type station lower is a hot dog wagon station like they have at Colfax, California! #: 49136 S1/General 21-Nov-91 18:18:08 Sb: #49122-#Train Stations Fm: Tom Baden 74646,676 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) Wichita, Kansas, since we're in the area. Built 1914 served ATSF, CRIP, SLSF, and it's own Wichita Union Terminal. Freight only now, but serves as the headquarters of the local cable TV company. Tom Baden #: 49138 S1/General 21-Nov-91 18:26:51 Sb: #49136-#Train Stations Fm: John Feagans 75300,703 To: Tom Baden 74646,676 Does anyone know what the UP did going into Butte, Montana? I have seen the old and new Milwaukee stations and the old NP depot, but don't know where the Butte Special ended up. #: 49214 S1/General 23-Nov-91 10:11:31 Sb: #49138-#Train Stations Fm: Mark Hufstetler 76256,767 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) The UP used the NP's Butte station for decades. I've never heard of the NP's station called "Union," though. The Milwaukee's old Butte station was occasionally called "Union," since it used to host BA&P trains. By the way, there's also a nice old GN depot still in Butte, as well as a _really_ old (pre-MILW) BA&P depot. #: 49223 S1/General 23-Nov-91 13:58:48 Sb: #49214-#Train Stations Fm: John Feagans 75300,703 To: Mark Hufstetler 76256,767 (X) Are you from the Butte area? The "old" Milwaukee terminus station with the tower necessitated backing in from Butte Junction. The Milwaukee built a "new" station on the mainline in 1957 and it was only used until 1961 when all passenger service ceased. I didn't know the BA&P ran passenger trains. The last time I saw the old clocktower in Butte it had a radio stations call letters on it. The Milwaukee station in Missoula was also quite nice. It had a "St. Marks" tower as well. I didn't know GN had a Butte station of any merit. Their line came down from Great Falls through Helena to Butte. #: 49314 S1/General 24-Nov-91 17:19:58 Sb: #49223-#Train Stations Fm: Mark Hufstetler 76256,767 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) John ... I live in Bozeman, but my firm has its main office in Butte, so I get down there a couple of times a week. The Milwaukee's old station there is still used by a TV station, as it has since the 50s. (Some of the old umbrella sheds behind the station are still in place!) The "new" MILW station has been remodled into a training building for firefighters. The NP station is abandoned, and in rough shape. GN's old station (a stub-end affair) is used as a lab by a biotechnology firm, and te old BA&P station is used by a beer distributer for storage. Lot's of interesting railroading around there, although most of its gone, now. BTW, the BN has just filed for abandonment of the Homestake Pass line wast (that's "east!") of Butte. Hasn't been used since 1983. Some Butte people want the track for a tourist line, but I think their chances are pretty slim. -- Mark -- #: 49350 S1/General 25-Nov-91 08:03:18 Sb: #49314-#Train Stations Fm: John Feagans 75300,703 To: Mark Hufstetler 76256,767 (X) Since you live in Bozeman, what is the story behind the dog named "Bruno" whose grave is marked by a NP monad symbol near the station? BTW the dining car crews used to always feed another dog that came to meet the train. #: 49446 S1/General 26-Nov-91 18:48:09 Sb: #49350-#Train Stations Fm: Mark Hufstetler 76256,767 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) Boy, I didn't think anyone still new about that! I haven't even checked to see if the grave is still around anymore -- the station is looking pretty rough. I think Bruno was just a stray that was adopted by NP's bozeman workers, and he took to meeting the trains, just like his successor did in the 70s with Amtrak. I'll have to ask around and see if there's any more to the story. There's a better-known dog's grave near the old GN tracks up in Fort Benton, Montana, too. That dog was named "Shep," and he was a sheepherder's dog. Anyway, the sheepherder died, and his coffin was shipped east on a train (this was in the 20s, I think). Shep apparently stayed at the station for years, waiting for his master's return. After the dog died, (hit by a train, naturally) the townspeople buried him on the hill overlooking the station, and erected a granite obelisk for a headstone. The stone is still there, now accompanied by a larger-than-life plywood cutout of Shep, an interpretive sign, and the dog's name spelled out in painted rocks on the hill. Most humans should be remembered so well! #: 49462 S1/General 26-Nov-91 20:28:36 Sb: #49446-Train Stations Fm: John Feagans 75300,703 To: Mark Hufstetler 76256,767 (X) After the 1970 merger, BN did everything possible to erradicate emblems from the pre-merger railroads. They painted over the carved marble monads on the Missoula station, and also the signs on the tops of the bridges "Ship-Travel Northern Pacific". Painted all the way buildings that were brown and tan into green and white. Its a wonder they didn't paint over Bruno's headstone too! I enjoyed all the stations along the NP southern route. Each one had character. Livingston had the national park buses and as I recall some interesting thermometers on the outside of the station. I remember that because I took pictures ofthem at 10 below!. They didn't wash the windows of the train that day. I think the best part of riding the NP were the "Route of the B_I_G baked potato". I saved some of the carboard tags that they stuck in the middle of the platter sized spuds. Never been able to find a source for potatoes like that. I have a picture of the NP commisary in Seattle that had a huge sign -- Route of the .... #: 49139 S1/General 21-Nov-91 18:34:02 Sb: #49012-Train Stations Fm: Dan Kittay 73277,3034 To: Michael A. Hernly 70003,3017 (X) There's one here in Albany, NY. Used by NYC and D&H, I believe. Now is the headquarters for Norstar Bank. Not sure of the dates. #: 49210 S1/General 23-Nov-91 07:29:55 Sb: #49012-Train Stations Fm: Arthur Sievers 72057,2112 To: Michael A. Hernly 70003,3017 (X) Don't forget St. Louis Art SIevers #: 49031 S1/General 19-Nov-91 20:21:28 Sb: #49011-#Train Stations Fm: Corbett Price (Railfans) 73177,2565 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) Richmond, Va. built 1919, used by RF&P, ACL, & SAL Washington, D.C. used by RF&P, NYC, PRR, B&O. Currently used by Amtrak and MARC and CSX. Richmond's Union Station is no longer a train station, but has been modified into a science museum and planetarium (also home of the Richmond, Freelance & Prototype model rr club). #: 49038 S1/General 20-Nov-91 07:38:35 Sb: #49031-#Train Stations Fm: John Feagans 75300,703 To: Corbett Price (Railfans) 73177,2565 (X) I mentioned Union Station in Seattle, but forgot King Street Station which is still in use by Amtrak and was used by NP and GN. Also Tacoma which is not in use but was used by GN,NP,UP and for a while by Amtrak. #: 49088 S1/General 21-Nov-91 03:03:27 Sb: #49038-Train Stations Fm: Corbett Price (Railfans) 73177,2565 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) Main Street Station in Richmond was used by the Seaboard Air Line and C&O jointly, but is no longer in service as a station. It was rebuilt a few years ago into a bunch of shops, but that failed miserably. Now it just sits empty. #: 49147 S1/General 21-Nov-91 21:31:53 Sb: #49038-#Train Stations Fm: Michael C Hobbs 70243,3122 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) I think the Seattle (King Street Station) and the Tacoma Station were used by the Spokane, Portland, and Seattle RR, which was jointly owned by... Somebody help me out here... UP and GN??? -- Michael #: 49150 S1/General 21-Nov-91 22:37:31 Sb: #49147-Train Stations Fm: Steve Haas 76416,1340 To: Michael C Hobbs 70243,3122 King Street Station in Seattle was used by Great Northern, Northern Pacific, & SP&S. GN and NP were the joint owners of SP&S. Union Station in Seattle was used by Union Pacific and Milwaukee Road. #: 49069 S1/General 20-Nov-91 18:46:39 Sb: #49009-Train Stations Fm: Richard Daniels 71170,3227 To: Michael A. Hernly 70003,3017 (X) Michael, A society that specializes in railroad stations is: Railroad Station Historical Society c/o William F. Rapp, Editor 430 Ivy Ave. Crete, NE 68333 Dues are $9.00 Bulk rate, $11.00 First Class. For your money, you get six issues of "The Bulletin", a 16 page, 8 1/2 x 11 magazine giving history and present status of railroad stations around the US and Canada. It contains many black and white photos. I have been a member since 1975. They also hold yearly conventions where they tour many railroad stations in an area. ........Richard Daniels, Columbia, Maryland #: 49070 S1/General 20-Nov-91 19:29:50 Sb: #49009-Train Stations Fm: Edward Branley 71237,2227 To: Michael A. Hernly 70003,3017 (X) New Orleans' Union Passenger Terminal was opened in 1954 and is still in use by Amtrak, although the area of 4 of its original 12 tracks is in use as a Greyhound terminal. #: 49847 (P) S1/General 03-Dec-91 22:16:45 Sb: #48867-#Train Stations Fm: Dorr Altizer, Sysop 76702,402 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) Can I take the Hold off of the Train Stations message thread? It looks like it's stopped. No problem if ya wanta keep the thread alive for another week, or so, though. Everything on a flanged wheel, Dorr #: 49857 (P) S1/General 04-Dec-91 07:39:17 Sb: #49847-#Train Stations Fm: John Feagans 75300,703 To: Dorr Altizer, Sysop 76702,402 (X) Let me go in and collect the whole thing start to finish, edit it, and re-upload to the libraries. Then zap the hold. I was hoping more members would jump in. I was looking through my collection of timetables and found a few more for the list. Thanks. #: 49912 (P) S1/General 05-Dec-91 02:21:07 Sb: #49857-Train Stations Fm: Dorr Altizer, Sysop 76702,402 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) Sounds like a plan to me, John. If the past is any indicator, after the file hits the libraries several people will hold up their hands and say, "Hey, you forgot the Union Station in _____________". Everything on a flanged wheel, Dorr #: 49158 S1/General 22-Nov-91 05:56:22 Sb: More Train Stations Fm: Paul Moore 71367,1057 To: John Feagans 75300,703 (X) Don't forget Boston's South Station (NYC and NY,NH & Hartford).